Journals of the Senate
54 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2005, Canada
Journals of the Senate
1st Session, 38th Parliament
Issue 87
Thursday, September 29, 2005
1:30 p.m.
The Honourable Daniel Hays, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Biron, Buchanan, Callbeck, Campbell, Champagne, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Cowan, Dallaire, Dawson, De Bané, Di Nino, Downe, Dyck, Eggleton, Fitzpatrick, Fox, Fraser, Furey, Gill, Goldstein, Grafstein, Harb, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lovelace Nicholas, Mahovlich, Massicotte, Mercer, Moore, Munson, Murray, Nancy Ruth, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Peterson, Phalen, Plamondon, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Ringuette, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, Segal, Sibbeston, Smith, Stollery, Stratton, Trenholme Counsell, Watt, Zimmer
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, *Austin, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Biron, Buchanan, Callbeck, Campbell, Champagne, Christensen, Cochrane, Comeau, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, Cowan, Dallaire, Dawson, De Bané, Di Nino, Downe, Dyck, Eggleton, Fitzpatrick, Fox, Fraser, Furey, Gill, Goldstein, Grafstein, Harb, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, *Kirby, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lovelace Nicholas, Mahovlich, Massicotte, Mercer, *Milne, *Mitchell, Moore, Munson, Murray, Nancy Ruth, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Peterson, Phalen, Plamondon, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Ringuette, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, Segal, Sibbeston, Smith, Stollery, Stratton, Trenholme Counsell, Watt, Zimmer
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some honourable senators made statements.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Tabling of Documents
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., tabled the following:
Public Accounts of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2005, Volume I—Summary Report and Financial Statements, Volume II—Details of Expenses and Revenues, Volume III—Additional Information and Analyses, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 64(1). —Sessional Paper No. 1/38-762.
Report of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development to the House of Commons (2005), pursuant to the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, sbs. 23(3). —Sessional Paper No. 1/38-763.
Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees
The Honourable Senator Furey, Chair of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration, presented its twelfth report (Senate Supplementary Estimates (A) 2005-2006).
(The report is printed as appendix "A'')
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Furey moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dallaire, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration later this day.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Stollery, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs, presented its seventh report (budget—study on the International Policy Statement—power to hire staff).
(The report is printed as appendix "B'')
The Honourable Senator Stollery moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Corbin, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Stollery, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs, presented its eighth report (budget—release of additional funds (study on the development and security challenges facing Africa)).
(The report is printed as appendix "C'')
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Stollery moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Corbin, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration later this day.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Fraser for the Honourable Senator Fairbairn, P.C., Chair of the Special Senate Committee on the Anti-terrorism Act, presented its third report (budget—release of additional funds (review of the provisions and operation of the Anti-terrorism Act)).
(The report is printed as appendix "D'')
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Fraser moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration later this day.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Keon, Deputy Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, presented its fourteenth report (Bill S-40, An Act to amend the Hazardous Materials Information Review Act, without amendment).
The Honourable Senator Keon moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cowan, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Presentation of Petitions
The Honourable Senator LeBreton presented petitions:
Of Residents of the Province of Ontario concerning the treatment of Autism.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
OTHER BUSINESS
Senate Public Bills
Orders No. 1 to 11 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Second reading of Bill S-41, An Act to amend the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade Act (human rights reports).
The Honourable Senator Kinsella moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, that the bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Losier-Cool moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poy, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Order No. 13 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees
Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Consideration of the twelfth report of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration (Senate Supplementary Estimates (A) 2005-2006), presented in the Senate earlier this day.
The Honourable Senator Furey moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moore, that the report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Consideration of the eighth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs (budget—release of additional funds (study on the development and security challenges facing Africa)), presented in the Senate earlier this day.
The Honourable Senator Downe moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Massicotte, that the report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Consideration of the third report of the Special Senate Committee on the Anti-terrorism Act (budget—release of additional funds (review of the provisions and operation of the Anti-terrorism Act), presented in the Senate earlier this day.
The Honourable Senator Fraser moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Campbell, that the report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Other
Orders No. 127 (motion), 24 (inquiry), 120 (motion), 18 (inquiry), 113 (motion) and 6 (inquiry) were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Léger calling the attention of the Senate to the importance of artistic creation to a nation's vitality and the priority the federal government should give to culture, as defined by UNESCO, in its departments and other agencies under its authority.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator LeBreton for the Honourable Senator Champagne, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 2, 25, 17, 26, 11, 15 (inquiries) and 91 (motion) were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Cools calling the attention of the Senate to:
(a) November 6, 2004, the sixtieth anniversary of the assassination of Walter Edward Guinness, Lord Moyne, British Minister Resident in the Middle East, whose responsibilities included Palestine, and to his accomplished and outstanding life, ended at age 64 by Jewish terrorist action in Cairo, Egypt; and
(b) to Lord Moyne's assassins Eliahu Bet-Tsouri, age 22, and Eliahu Hakim, age 17, of the Jewish extremist Stern Gang LEHI, the Lohamei Herut Israel, translated, the Fighters for the Freedom of Israel, who on November 6, 1944 shot him point blank, inflicting mortal wounds which caused his death hours later as King Farouk's personal physicians tried to save his life; and
(c) to the 1945 trial, conviction and death sentences of Eliahu Bet-Tsouri and Eliahu Hakim, and their execution by hanging at Cairo's Bab-al-Khalk prison on March 23, 1945; and
(d) to the 1975 exchange of prisoners between Israel and Egypt, being the exchange of 20 Egyptians for the remains of the young assassins Bet-Tsouri and Hakim, and to their state funeral with full military honours and their reburial on Jerusalem's Mount Herzl, the Israeli cemetery reserved for heroes and eminent persons, which state funeral featured Israel's Prime Minister Rabin and Knesset Member Yitzhak Shamir, who gave the eulogy; and
(e) to Yitzhak Shamir, born Yitzhak Yezernitsky in Russian Poland in 1915, and in 1935 emigrated to Palestine, later becoming Israel's Foreign Minister, 1980-1986, and Prime Minister 1983-1984 and 1986-1992, who as the operations chief for the Stern Gang LEHI, had ordered and planned Lord Moyne's assassination; and
(f) to Britain's diplomatic objections to the high recognition accorded by Israel to Lord Moyne's assassins, which objection, conveyed by British Ambassador to Israel, Sir Bernard Ledwidge, stated that Britain "very much regretted that an act of terrorism should be honoured in this way,'' and Israel's rejection of Britain's representations, and Israel's characterization of the terrorist assassins as "heroic freedom fighters''; and
(g) to my recollections, as a child in Barbados, of Lord Moyne's great contribution to the British West Indies, particularly as Chair of the West India Royal Commission, 1938-39, known as the Moyne Commission and its celebrated 1945 Moyne Report, which pointed the way towards universal suffrage, representative and responsible government in the British West Indies, and also to the deep esteem accorded to Lord Moyne in the British Caribbean.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Prud'homme, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercer, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 21, 22 (inquiries), 78 (motion), 14, 20 (inquiries) and 69 (motion) were called and postponed until the next sitting.
INQUIRIES
The Honourable Senator Oliver called the attention of the Senate to a new report: Business Critical: Maximizing the Talents of Visible Minorities, An Employers Guide, and how this study by the Conference Board of Canada can lead to fundamental changes in the hiring and promotion of visible minorities in both the public and private sectors including the Senate of Canada.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Grafstein moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C., that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
MOTIONS
The Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Grafstein:
That the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology study the following and report to the Senate within three months after the adoption of this motion:
1. The designation by the Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada of the Montreal residence of Louis Hippolyte Lafontaine, Prime Minister of United Canada from 1841-42 and 1848-51, located on Overdale Street as a National Historic Monument to be purchased and managed by Parks Canada;
2. The creation of an Interpretation Centre at this Lafontaine residence for the purpose of promoting knowledge about the development of Responsible Government in Canada including the part played by Robert Baldwin, co- Prime Minister and Attorney General of Upper Canada, Joseph Howe from Nova Scotia, Charles Fisher from New Brunswick, and Lord Elgin, then Governor General of United Canada;
3. The role of Parks Canada in establishing a network of historic sites across the country to promote an understanding of our parliamentary democracy and the contributions made to this end by various Prime Ministers throughout our history.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Cools moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Segal, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Grafstein moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Banks:
That the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce be authorized to sit at 3 p.m., on Wednesday, October 19, 2005, even though the Senate may then be sitting, and that rule 95(4) be suspended in relation thereto.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
With leave,
The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C. moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool:
That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 2 p.m.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):
Reports of the Department of International Trade Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2005, pursuant to the Access to Information Act to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/38-760.
Reports of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade (Foreign Affairs) for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2005, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 1/38-761.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 4:06 p.m. the Senate was continued until Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 2 p.m.)
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)
Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples
The names of the Honourable Senators Lovelace Nicholas and Zimmer added to the membership (September 28).
Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications
The name of the Honourable Senator Dawson added to the membership (September 28).
Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce
The name of the Honourable Senator Goldstein substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Massicotte (September 28).
Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs
The name of the Honourable Senator Zimmer substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Mercer (September 28).
Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology
The name of the Honourable Senator Segal substituted for that of the Honourable Senator LeBreton (September 29).